Comments for Passion for Christ Ministries http://www.p4x.org Worship | Proclaim | Connect Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:30:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Leadership from Below by Scott http://www.p4x.org/p4x-blog/leadership-from-below/comment-page-1/#comment-627 Scott Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:30:53 +0000 http://www.p4x.org/?p=1813#comment-627 I agree. It is an issue in the church as a whole. One of my desires is for the church to understand her beauty in the middle of the mess we exist within – for every person to recognize who Christ has made them to be to the church and in the world, to embrace the fullness of the kingdom of God as we participate with God in its spreading throughout the whole earth… Many churches are structured around 1 gifted individual rather than a team of gifts to the church. Pastor gifts are often expected to be the teacher, evangelist, apostle, and prophet to the church rather than functioning as a part of a team. My hope is that apostle gifts can function as apostles who hold to the truth without needing to function as is they were teacher or pastor gifts – for evangelists to function as evangelists to the church, without needing to function as if they were pastor or teacher gits – for prophets to function as prophets to the church, without needing to function as if they were evangelist or apostle gifts, ad infinitum. Certainly there can be overlap (I am an apostle, teacher, pastor mix) and we are all expected to hold to the truth of the gospel unswervingly; however, if ones clearly understood their role within the body, complimentary teams could be developed with mutual edification and a sense of grace and freedom in Christ. There is certainly much more to write… I agree. It is an issue in the church as a whole. One of my desires is for the church to understand her beauty in the middle of the mess we exist within – for every person to recognize who Christ has made them to be to the church and in the world, to embrace the fullness of the kingdom of God as we participate with God in its spreading throughout the whole earth… Many churches are structured around 1 gifted individual rather than a team of gifts to the church. Pastor gifts are often expected to be the teacher, evangelist, apostle, and prophet to the church rather than functioning as a part of a team. My hope is that apostle gifts can function as apostles who hold to the truth without needing to function as is they were teacher or pastor gifts – for evangelists to function as evangelists to the church, without needing to function as if they were pastor or teacher gits – for prophets to function as prophets to the church, without needing to function as if they were evangelist or apostle gifts, ad infinitum. Certainly there can be overlap (I am an apostle, teacher, pastor mix) and we are all expected to hold to the truth of the gospel unswervingly; however, if ones clearly understood their role within the body, complimentary teams could be developed with mutual edification and a sense of grace and freedom in Christ. There is certainly much more to write…

]]> Comment on Leadership from Below by Alfred http://www.p4x.org/p4x-blog/leadership-from-below/comment-page-1/#comment-625 Alfred Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:32:51 +0000 http://www.p4x.org/?p=1813#comment-625 Well written and oh so accurate, Scott. I wish the problem with the church and the gifts stopped with the leadership. It seems like most people either think they have no gifts at all or that they have all of the gifts. And the church as a whole really doesn't seem to understand how to determine who has what gift. Gifts are mislabeled and hardly ever used. We really have a sad state of affairs. Instead of a group of people building each up in faith until we all reach maturity in Christ, as a group of interlocking body parts should, instead we are like a bunch of parts lying on some surgeons table, totally separated from each other. Most of it comes from ideas of leadership exactly like you wrote against in the post. People are selected the same way Nebuchadnezzar selected people for his court from amongst the Israelites. The handsomest, smartest, well formed, graceful, and well spoken people. God wanted the people with the most character, faith, and love of God, who don't compromise the truth. Turned out it was the same person when it came to Daniel and his friends, but they were only 4 out of perhaps 70 people! (not sure how they decided 70, but the scholars seem to think that many.) I wish there were more people like Daniel, and I wish there were more people who knew enough to realize what they are missing when there are not people like that in the church, or when they are not recognized and utilized. And I wish more people didn't let their gifts rot because they don't fit Nebs bill of who is a gifted person. Well written and oh so accurate, Scott. I wish the problem with the church and the gifts stopped with the leadership. It seems like most people either think they have no gifts at all or that they have all of the gifts. And the church as a whole really doesn’t seem to understand how to determine who has what gift. Gifts are mislabeled and hardly ever used. We really have a sad state of affairs. Instead of a group of people building each up in faith until we all reach maturity in Christ, as a group of interlocking body parts should, instead we are like a bunch of parts lying on some surgeons table, totally separated from each other. Most of it comes from ideas of leadership exactly like you wrote against in the post. People are selected the same way Nebuchadnezzar selected people for his court from amongst the Israelites. The handsomest, smartest, well formed, graceful, and well spoken people. God wanted the people with the most character, faith, and love of God, who don’t compromise the truth. Turned out it was the same person when it came to Daniel and his friends, but they were only 4 out of perhaps 70 people! (not sure how they decided 70, but the scholars seem to think that many.) I wish there were more people like Daniel, and I wish there were more people who knew enough to realize what they are missing when there are not people like that in the church, or when they are not recognized and utilized. And I wish more people didn’t let their gifts rot because they don’t fit Nebs bill of who is a gifted person.

]]> Comment on Video: Better Choices = Better Stewardship by Anna http://www.p4x.org/p4x-blog/choices-stewardship/comment-page-1/#comment-522 Anna Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:50:21 +0000 http://www.p4x.org/?p=1806#comment-522 Preach it, brother!  :)   Preach it, brother!  :)

 

]]> Comment on Video: Great I Am by Scott http://www.p4x.org/p4x-blog/video-great-i-am/comment-page-1/#comment-474 Scott Fri, 02 Sep 2011 02:34:26 +0000 http://www.p4x.org/?p=1645#comment-474 Not sure about where it was shot brother. It was our first time because we were with friends :) Not sure about where it was shot brother. It was our first time because we were with friends :)

]]> Comment on Video: Great I Am by Alfred http://www.p4x.org/p4x-blog/video-great-i-am/comment-page-1/#comment-473 Alfred Thu, 01 Sep 2011 23:04:50 +0000 http://www.p4x.org/?p=1645#comment-473 Is this from the Mill at new life? Looks like one of the praise meetings I used go to there. They were always amazing worship time.20 somethings praising and worshiping all around and people praying in the aisles Is this from the Mill at new life? Looks like one of the praise meetings I used go to there. They were always amazing worship time.20 somethings praising and worshiping all around and people praying in the aisles

]]> Comment on Living with a Severe Mood Disorder by Matt Myers http://www.p4x.org/p4x-blog/living-with-a-severe-mood-disorder/comment-page-1/#comment-472 Matt Myers Wed, 31 Aug 2011 00:16:28 +0000 http://www.p4x.org/?p=1111#comment-472 I was one of "the experts." May I be forgiven of all my expertise (in various categories). I am, genuinely, sorry. I was one of “the experts.” May I be forgiven of all my expertise (in various categories). I am, genuinely, sorry.

]]> Comment on Living with a Severe Mood Disorder by Scott http://www.p4x.org/p4x-blog/living-with-a-severe-mood-disorder/comment-page-1/#comment-292 Scott Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:47:06 +0000 http://www.p4x.org/?p=1111#comment-292 Hey brother. That is an awesome biography, very inspirational. Have you read "The Heavenly Man"? I'm just cracking it open on the recommendation of a friend. He became a believer after receiving a Bible that was smuggled into China by Brother Andrew. Some amazing stuff in there as well so far. We miss you all as well. It would be a privilege to work alongside you all again as well. Would love to hear an update on the jobs you've applied for as well... I will be replying to your email soon - I'm sorry for the delay! Love to your family in Christ! Hey brother. That is an awesome biography, very inspirational. Have you read “The Heavenly Man”? I’m just cracking it open on the recommendation of a friend. He became a believer after receiving a Bible that was smuggled into China by Brother Andrew. Some amazing stuff in there as well so far. We miss you all as well. It would be a privilege to work alongside you all again as well. Would love to hear an update on the jobs you’ve applied for as well… I will be replying to your email soon – I’m sorry for the delay! Love to your family in Christ!

]]> Comment on Living with a Severe Mood Disorder by Scott http://www.p4x.org/p4x-blog/living-with-a-severe-mood-disorder/comment-page-1/#comment-291 Scott Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:43:38 +0000 http://www.p4x.org/?p=1111#comment-291 Hey Cossettes - that is a great song; we're introducing it here in CO soon. You guys are lights to the world in Christ and we love and miss you all too! Hey Cossettes – that is a great song; we’re introducing it here in CO soon. You guys are lights to the world in Christ and we love and miss you all too!

]]> Comment on Living with a Severe Mood Disorder by Daniel http://www.p4x.org/p4x-blog/living-with-a-severe-mood-disorder/comment-page-1/#comment-289 Daniel Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:53:40 +0000 http://www.p4x.org/?p=1111#comment-289 Hey Brother Olson, I have been reading Hudson Taylors bio recently and was reminded again how God seems to let the greatest servants go through the greatest trials. Because of the trials Hudson went threw he was able to pave the way for many more missionaries to travel into the reaches of China with the gospel. The greatest among us will be the least, and you have been one of the greatest servants I have known (along with one who has suffered so much). My family and I love and miss you all. I hope we have the chance to work alongside each other again before our time comes, or He comes and takes us home. Till that day. Hey Brother Olson,

I have been reading Hudson Taylors bio recently and was reminded again how God seems to let the greatest servants go through the greatest trials. Because of the trials Hudson went threw he was able to pave the way for many more missionaries to travel into the reaches of China with the gospel. The greatest among us will be the least, and you have been one of the greatest servants I have known (along with one who has suffered so much). My family and I love and miss you all. I hope we have the chance to work alongside each other again before our time comes, or He comes and takes us home. Till that day.

]]> Comment on Living with a Severe Mood Disorder by Adrian Cossette http://www.p4x.org/p4x-blog/living-with-a-severe-mood-disorder/comment-page-1/#comment-281 Adrian Cossette Sat, 31 Jul 2010 04:56:34 +0000 http://www.p4x.org/?p=1111#comment-281 Scott and Anna, I read this post while listening to Matt Redman sing "You Never Let Go". I have to admit that it was very encouraging to be reading about such pain existing in this world and at the same time be reminded that no one can snatch us from the Father's hand and He will never leave us nor forsake us in our pain. Thank you for being honest and open with your lives. I can see Jesus in you. We love and miss y'all. Please remember Galatians 6:9 which says,"Let us not not grow weary in doing good for at the right time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up or quit." Love, The Cossettes Scott and Anna,
I read this post while listening to Matt Redman sing “You Never Let Go”. I have to admit that it was very encouraging to be reading about such pain existing in this world and at the same time be reminded that no one can snatch us from the Father’s hand and He will never leave us nor forsake us in our pain. Thank you for being honest and open with your lives. I can see Jesus in you. We love and miss y’all. Please remember Galatians 6:9 which says,”Let us not not grow weary in doing good for at the right time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up or quit.”

Love,
The Cossettes

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